Please don't paint a mountain out of a mole hill , OK ? The world is not coming to an end yet. We are not talking about criminal intimidation.Originally posted by cloud210:If every girl abuses the fact they are the "weaker" sex, I'm certain most man is willing to give up their gift of physical strength and grow a womb. There are many things in the world that are more torturing than physical violence, emotional abuse is one of them.
Some woman just think their vagi** owns every other di** and vagi**.
So you'r saying women use violence against violence is right, men use is wrong?Originally posted by jojobeach:So, as much as you don't approve with fighting violence with violence, trust me, it is a necessary evil.
Is violent retaliation the only way a man can use to deal with a woman trying to take advantage ? If you sit down and think, there are many.
Originally posted by jojobeach:If your gf is running after you yielding a chopper or a chainsaw, I suggest you RUN, call 999 and hide.
Unless the bf was already holding a cup of hot water, I don't think slapping him is regarded as self defense, TS has not specified is he holding one at that time.Originally posted by jojobeach:I ain't no law enforcer, but I think there is something about classifying some actions as "self defense".
Have you ever seen a chihuahua attack an Alsatian ?
I did, and it was pathetic case of a weaker breed fighting a much stronger breed.
Woah~Originally posted by cloud210:Unless the bf was already holding a cup of hot water, I don't think slapping him is regarded as self defense, TS has not specified is he holding one at that time.
So you've seen, I've not seen, you're definitely right, i'm definitely wrong? You being in an abusive relationship before makes you more superior/expert than angel or rainee? I'm not questioning your experience, seriously none of us wouldn't want to go through what you've seen or been. You seemed to be very proud of what you've seen and been through and use it to put down others.
If the chihuahua attacks the alsatian because the alsatian pose a immediate threat, the attack is valid, win or loss is another story. If chihuahua attacks because he don't like that alsatian face, i'll say the chihuahua is stupid. Whether it is a win or loss, i believe the chihuahua should have accessed his opponent. Seriously, if the odds is severely against you, why would you want to attack head on?
There are many ways TS can do, like sue him for threatening and emotional damage or run, call 999 and hide when the cup of hot water is already on his hands like what jojobeach said. Impose a restriction order, to not let TS bf come close to her on the basis of him threatening TS.
I support Angel and rainee suggestions because they showed a higher moral, maturity and calmness in handling situations. TS is only heading for trouble with the law when she slap her bf. Even if TS don't get scalded by the hot water, she is on the way to an offence of assault. I believe the threat made by TS's bf is just to spike her, to allow her to make such a mistake.
And lastly, like jojobeach says, you should have walked away from the relationship. Use the law if such another scenario arises, this is the way to protect yourself.
Aiya the r/s also over liao, don't think so muchOriginally posted by jojobeach:Actually, I wasn't proud , more like pain. Happy ?
Luckily none of my SOs abused me physically yet so far, but I have been in an abusive family since I was young. But thank goodness my family has realized their wrongdoings and have stopped the abuse recently...partly because I have grown up and am doing my bits to support the family...Originally posted by jojobeach:Rainee and Angel,
May I know if either of you ever been in an abusive relationship ?
I have.
The problem here is, when you walk away from his threats, he believes you are afraid and is not able to retaliate.
Believing that he can actually subdue you with such act, he will use it again the next time similar scenario arises.
To shut you up, he will tell you that he will hurt you, and you walk away, quietly.
It was until I finally fought back, that he stop. Because he knows there are consequence to pay. A repercussion to consider.
So, as much as you don't approve with fighting violence with violence, trust me, it is a necessary evil.
And yes, it all started with verbal intimidation.
So to Petti,
If you havn't done it yet, it is time you walk away from the RELATIONSHIP, not just walk away from him.
Actually, I was trying to end that relationship, that's when the physical abuse started.Originally posted by rainee:Luckily none of my SOs abused me physically yet so far, but I have been in an abusive family since I was young. But thank goodness my family has realized their wrongdoings and have stopped the abuse recently...partly because I have grown up and am doing my bits to support the family...
Even if you are in an abusive relationship, you can't solve the problem by hitting the other party back. And I agree, the best thing for petti to do would be to walk away from the guy. When he threatens her, just walk away and ignore him. Don't need to resort to physical retaliation, girls will always lose out when it comes to fighting physically with guys...
If he still keeps making verbal threats to her, she can report it to the police or get help from someone she trusts to ward that guy off...but the first step is definitely to break up completely from this relationship.
Im sorry...Originally posted by jojobeach:Actually, I was trying to end that relationship, that's when the physical abuse started.
During the relationship, verbal abuse and emotional blackmail was brought upon me, during times I refused to let him have his way.
After I had enough of his selfish acts. I decided to call it quits.
At first he would stalk me at my work, tail me during my outings, waited at the void decks.
Then after I refused to patch back with him, he started hitting me. He warned me that if he cannot have me, no other man will.
That even if I don't love him, he will have my physical body.
If I don't give in to his demands, he will have my face disfigured so no man will ever want to touch me.
It was a nightmare.
I went to work with bruises on my face and body.
Too ashamed to let my colleagues and family know, I lied about falling and accidents.
I had to meet up with him, everyday, out of fear, I did, for one long year.
After I fought back, he backed off. Found a china girl and got her pregnant.
The police can only do so much. I don't know much about the law back then. It seemed a difficult route to take , seeking protection from our justice system.
The questions they threw at me, stripped me of my self dignity.
I hope Petti would never have to go through what I did.
Sorry for what ? You arn't the culprit are you ? LOL.Originally posted by Zarks:Im sorry...
Yea, but my point is she shouldn't have slapped him just because he threatened her.Originally posted by jojobeach:Actually, I was trying to end that relationship, that's when the physical abuse started.
During the relationship, verbal abuse and emotional blackmail was brought upon me, during times I refused to let him have his way.
After I had enough of his selfish acts. I decided to call it quits.
At first he would stalk me at my work, tail me during my outings, waited at the void decks.
Then after I refused to patch back with him, he started hitting me. He warned me that if he cannot have me, no other man will.
That even if I don't love him, he will have my physical body.
If I don't give in to his demands, he will have my face disfigured so no man will ever want to touch me.
It was a nightmare.
I went to work with bruises on my face and body.
Too ashamed to let my colleagues and family know, I lied about falling and accidents.
I had to meet up with him, everyday, out of fear, I did, for one long year.
After I fought back, he backed off. Found a china girl and got her pregnant.
The police can only do so much. I don't know much about the law back then. It seemed a difficult route to take , seeking protection from our justice system.
The questions they threw at me, stripped me of my self dignity.
I hope Petti would never have to go through what I did.
I agree with rainee.Originally posted by rainee:Yea, but my point is she shouldn't have slapped him just because he threatened her.
If i think he meant it and my gut feeling tells me that there is a threat, i will do anythings under the circumstances to protect myself. However, this is only for self-defense but hor does ur bf really means it?Originally posted by petti:am i wrong?
my boyfriend said he will splash the cup of hot water at my face, and i slapped him. am i wrong?
hmmm.. don't say things like you wanted to commit suicide. anyways. usually its the guy who commits suicide - ratio for guy:girl from WHO (world health organisation) is 1:0, 6:1 in most countries, 2:1 in others. girls tend to express suicidal intention to other people but never end up acting on it (luckily, most are not serious while some tell their friends/family), while guys usually do not express it at all, but end up acting on it. This is what is most dangerous cause when guys want to suicide, they keep quiet, whereas for girls, they tell people, so friends/families would help them.Originally posted by jojobeach:Glad I survived it, wanted to commit suicide but I didn't.
Originally posted by jojobeach:Actually, I was trying to end that relationship, that's when the physical abuse started.
During the relationship, verbal abuse and emotional blackmail was brought upon me, during times I refused to let him have his way.
After I had enough of his selfish acts. I decided to call it quits.
At first he would stalk me at my work, tail me during my outings, waited at the void decks.
Then after I refused to patch back with him, he started hitting me. He warned me that if he cannot have me, no other man will.
That even if I don't love him, he will have my physical body.
If I don't give in to his demands, he will have my face disfigured so no man will ever want to touch me.
It was a nightmare.
I went to work with bruises on my face and body.
Too ashamed to let my colleagues and family know, I lied about falling and accidents.
I had to meet up with him, everyday, out of fear, I did, for one long year.
After I fought back, he backed off. Found a china girl and got her pregnant.
The police can only do so much. I don't know much about the law back then. It seemed a difficult route to take , seeking protection from our justice system.
The questions they threw at me, stripped me of my self dignity.
I hope Petti would never have to go through what I did.
To jo,Originally posted by jojobeach:Rainee and Angel,
May I know if either of you ever been in an abusive relationship ?
I have.
The problem here is, when you walk away from his threats, he believes you are afraid and is not able to retaliate.
Believing that he can actually subdue you with such act, he will use it again the next time similar scenario arises.
To shut you up, he will tell you that he will hurt you, and you walk away, quietly.
It was until I finally fought back, that he stop. Because he knows there are consequence to pay. A repercussion to consider.
So, as much as you don't approve with fighting violence with violence, trust me, it is a necessary evil.
And yes, it all started with verbal intimidation.
So to Petti,
If you havn't done it yet, it is time you walk away from the RELATIONSHIP, not just walk away from him.